2ZZ-GE into RWD?

[Sam_Q]

Has anyone ever seen a 2ZZ-GE put into a RWD before? I wonder if ti is possible to fit it onto something like a Mazda MX-5 - 6 speed gearbox or something with a custom bellhousing.

[Salad Fingers]

Well I know Alloy Race components can make RWD bellhousings for the 2zz engine.

These adaptors are for a ford sierra 'box, but i'm sure they, or any similar company could fab something up to suit a common local 'box.

The 2zz engine is quickly becoming a big thing for kit car builders as it complies with new emmision standards and still makes ok power.


http://www.alloyrace.com/products_engineering.php

[M.J.H]

Have seen them in Clubman cars but not any thing else in rear drive yet.
I think from memory the block has no provision for any eng mounts so you would need to make some brackets to mount off the original mounts.
Talk to the guys at Meridian Motorsport as they were/are doing these conversions in the clubbies at least.
Is certinaly doable but why not go for something else like a 20V or just spend the money on go fast bits for the original motor.

EDIT just remembered that if you do use the 1 or 2ZZ you need the key and transponder things as well or it won't go. At least not if you use the original comp anyways.

[Sam_Q]

because I like to do challenging mechanical jobs sometimes and besides these won't cost much in 5 years time.

thanks for the pics Salad fingers, so why does everything use a Sierra box, whats so special about them? also is that for an auto or hasn't the cut-out been made yet?

I wonder what they would charge for this.

[M.J.H]

because I like to do challenging mechanical jobs sometimes and besides these won't cost much in 5 years time.

thanks for the pics Salad fingers, so why does everything use a Sierra box, whats so special about them? also is that for an auto or hasn't the cut-out been made yet?

I wonder what they would charge for this.

Hey no worries if thats what you want to do.
The Sierra box is nice and skinny to fit in the tight tunnel section of a chassiss and thats what they already use.

[Salad Fingers]

And the sierra boxs' are plenty strong!

Sam_Q, I dare say they would be using an internal slave cylinder in that setup, where the slave cylinder is more like a hydrualic throwout bearing.

[Sam_Q]

that sounds right, they do sell that product afterall. Whats one of these engines weigh? come to think of it whats a Sierra box weigh?

[MR22ZZ]

Have seen them in Clubman cars but not any thing else in rear drive yet.
I think from memory the block has no provision for any eng mounts so you would need to make some brackets to mount off the original mounts.
Talk to the guys at Meridian Motorsport as they were/are doing these conversions in the clubbies at least.
Is certinaly doable but why not go for something else like a 20V or just spend the money on go fast bits for the original motor.

EDIT just remembered that if you do use the 1 or 2ZZ you need the key and transponder things as well or it won't go. At least not if you use the original comp anyways.

Meridian Motorsports in Melbourne is definately the place to get a 2ZZ built for a RWD.

They have also been dropped into the MR-S but that is a more simple 1ZZ to 2ZZ swap (plus a few small other things) makes for a cheap Lotus Elise 111R or Exige, with a little more weight though.

You are also quite correct in that the key and transponder need to go with the factory ECU or else it WILL NOT start.

[tin can]

The only comp that will work on a 2zzge is the standard comp or a motes no other comp can control the vvtl-i


thanks jess

A guy at my work was going to put on in an ae82 twinky but found out only comp is motec sou put a black top in it with some mods

[MR22ZZ]

The only comp that will work on a 2zzge is the standard comp or a motes no other comp can control the vvtl-i


thanks jess

A guy at my work was going to put on in an ae82 twinky but found out only comp is motec sou put a black top in it with some mods

Apex-i PowerFC has been shown to also work now with a little bit of playing

if the 2ZZ-GE is donered from a celica it would be perfect, but the ECU for the corollas is different, the looms are completely differnent and there are a few sensors on the celica that are digital and controlled through the ECU that are analogue on the corolla.

[MR22ZZ]

read here

http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forum...showtopic=4830

and here

http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forum...showtopic=3813

the 2nd is more extensive

[DigitalPho3nix]

Don't Lotus use these in their Elises and Exiges?

[MR22ZZ]

They have also been dropped into the MR-S but that is a more simple 1ZZ to 2ZZ swap (plus a few small other things) makes for a cheap Lotus Elise 111R or Exige, with a little more weight though.

[Dimitri]

ive driven them in both celica and corolla form. extremely un-inspiring engine.

also it has been noted by people in the engine building business that these engines are markedly less high quality than toyotas past performance (G) engines.

i also had a very good look at them.. mount points are WHACK. alternator position is WHACK. right behind the plenum. (where youd need the TB for rwd).

you could use an engine plate on the front of the motor like some drag racers do for mounting.

i dont think its worth the effort. its NOT actually.

and yes running the dual vvtli is beyond the scop of almost all engine management systems. and then youd need to write maps for the cams aswell as the fuel and ignition.

forget it

oh its an ugly motor too.

[Sam_Q]

Blue_Stivo: link doesnt work

Dimitri: could you tell me more about the driveablity? I have heard this once before from a friend who says they have the power on paper but somehow are still crap.

also I am sure that I will never even get close to doing such a project, my 20V conversion kept me busy for a while let alone something huge like this. I just like to keep my brain ticking with ideas and I am curious if it can actually be done.


for the engine mounts I am sure I could make a bracket that goes from the alternator mount to the bellhousing as a support if I had to. That wouldn't be very hard I don't think