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    Hi

    Im still lurking around, looking for a good engine upgrade for my corona markII, so far i havent really found any engines intresting thats been aviable where i live, but now i decided to import a engine or maybe a front cut, and it seems like its a lot to choose from.

    I think the new engine should provide at least around 150hp, and a good deal of torque, and the smallest and only engine i considered so far is the 3s-ge. it seems to be a heck of a upgrade tho, lot of work, and im not sure i want to go thru all this if its better options out there. anyone have an idea about the fuel economy on this engine? the biggest problem with the S engine is the bellhousing and oil pan when installed into rwd, correct?

    isnt there also a engine called 1g-gte or something like that? a 2,0L turbo six or something? forgot what it was tho, but if anyone knows what im talking about, how is this engine to put into a rwd car, and whats hp and fuel economy?

    any other easy engine convertions i should consider? since this car is a daily driver its important that i get a good working driveline and fuel economy is pretty good.

    If anyone can give me some info and hints on what engines i should look at, specs and approx what i need to do to get it installed, im very greatfull. i think many of the toyotas engine names are kinda confusing, and i never seem to remember what is what.

    Thanks in advance for ur help

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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    firstly you need a 6 cylinder.

    options:

    1jzgte - 2.5L tt6 plenty of info about em,. cheap to pick up. -
    2jzgte - 3.0L tt6 tough as nails, awesome motor - more exxy but worth it imo
    1uzfe - 4.0L v8 not so hot, but if you have time and money you might be able to get something out of them.

    all these motors are 280hp or more, so would get your little corona up and boogying.

    dont go for a "M" series motor - they are crap and you will never have your hands off the motor fixing something. Head gaskets being the main pitfall.

    Edit - if you go ahead with it, buy nothing other than a half cut, it makes the job soooo much easier believe me!!
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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    Useful reference site for toyota engines:
    http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/P...ct/Engine.html

    Wikipedia listing of all engines
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toyota_engines



    edit: what year is your car and what's currently in the engine bay?

    I'dsay that the 1UZ conversion is a majro work of engineering and probably not what you need for a daily driver.

    Sorry to disagree with Blake, but assuming that you already have a M-series motor, the easiest conversion is going to be another M-series motor.
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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    id put an sr20t
    best bang for bucks engine out there

    and you can buy aftermarket bolt on bits everywhere

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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbos_Toyotas
    dont go for a "M" series motor - they are crap and you will never have your hands off the motor fixing something. Head gaskets being the main pitfall.

    Toyota stupidly undertorqued the heads on the M engines, but that really doesn't make them "crap", in my opinion anyways.
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    personally i think the easiest conversion for you to do is going to be the 7MGTE... simply because its easier for you to go find a MX12 donor car and take all the mounts and everything from that and you should be able to just bolt the 7M up to it without much screwing around... 3SGE is nice if you want a 4 banger with some rev's, but it'll be a lot of dicking around to get it in there..
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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    i think we're all glossing over a few important details:

    Virginia usa yes, but im actually in Norway, europe now.
    ...this car is a daily driver its important that i get a good working driveline and fuel economy is pretty good.
    And i'm pretty sure his profile said RX12 chassis code.
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    True, his profile says the current engine is 18r. He asked about the 1ggte? Isn't that a relatively easy easy swap for most 'R' engined cars?

    the 1g sounds like the ideal swap, when considering economy, power and ease of installation. Adequate power but not insane (not in stock form anyway). Its what, 180 -220hp depending on what gen? I'm sure the info would be found in the links posted above or by poking around on this forum. 1ggte swaps have been done and documented countless times into old celicas coronas and whatever else
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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    RX's are shorter than MX's, i doubt just a MX crossmember and M series engine will be all you need to bolt in a 7M-GTE.

    adamaw11's 1G suggestion sounds good to me, but i think they are rare in the US.
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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Screamn_Sleeka
    RX's are shorter than MX's, i doubt just a MX crossmember and M series engine will be all you need to bolt in a 7M-GTE.

    adamaw11's 1G suggestion sounds good to me, but i think they are rare in the US.
    they share the same chassis...how can they be shorter?

    according to this they share the same body exactly..

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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    For the power needed whats wrong with a 2jzge, it'll move it along nicely, get good economy and still be entertaining when you plant it.
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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    Yes he does have the RX Corona with 18R.He will either need a MX crossmember or cut the mounts off and reposition them further back.I have got an MX 10 with a 1G-GE and it fits in quite well and goes hard also.I'm also in the process of rebuilding a MX 22 Coupe which had an 18R in it which had the engine mounts cut off and repositioned to suit.This project will have the 1G put in when done.If you do a search under conversions you will find my project.
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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    Hi again

    Thanks for all ur answers.

    Yes my car is rx12 with 18r in it now.

    i looked at some pictures of the 1j and 2j installed into mark II, and it seems that will be a too big engine for my car, since mine is LHD the intake will crash with the brake booster and clutch pump etc, probably its possible to get around this, but seems like a lot of work.

    M engine is a possible upgrade, but i feel like i want something diffrent than that, and its not really much newer M engines to choose from where i live, but if i find something intressting, i maybe give it a try.

    I looked at some of the wreckers website near me today, and found that they have some 1G engines, but they dont have any 1g-ge, instead they have some lexus is200 engines called 1g-fe from 1999 and newer. it said HP output is 160hp for theese engines, not too bad i guess, but does anyone know how theese engines run compeared to 1g-ge?

    also is theese engines from 1999 is200 and newer rwd? would it be a easy and good engine upgrade`?

    Thanks again for ur help

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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkIIRx12
    i looked at some pictures of the 1j and 2j installed into mark II, and it seems that will be a too big engine for my car, since mine is LHD the intake will crash with the brake booster and clutch pump etc, probably its possible to get around this, but seems like a lot of work.
    Firstly, post or link us up with pics of 1J powered Mark II. Nextly, have seen 1JZ into a LHD Crown - everything missed nicely. Just use a smaller booster and a lower profile clutch master.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkIIRx12
    I looked at some of the wreckers website near me today, and found that they have some 1G engines, but they dont have any 1g-ge, instead they have some lexus is200 engines called 1g-fe from 1999 and newer. it said HP output is 160hp for theese engines, not too bad i guess, but does anyone know how theese engines run compeared to 1g-ge?
    also is theese engines from 1999 is200 and newer rwd? would it be a easy and good engine upgrade?
    They're RWD engines from the IS200. They come with a 4 spd auto or a 6 spd. You can convert them to a 5 spd. They'll be fine - if anything they will be a bit better than an older 1GGE - they're newer and also have VVTi so if anything may have slightly more low down torque. Make sure you get the loom and ECU if you go down this path - aftermarket ECU choices will be limited due to the need to control cam timing.
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    Default Re: What engines are Hot, Hp and fuel economy?

    Thanks again for your help

    wich bellhousing will fit a 1g? somewhere i read T bellhousings and other places i read S bellhousing, what is correct? anyone knows what mods is needed on the bellhousing to make it fit?

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