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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    Quote Originally Posted by nb86
    nissan sumitomto 4spot calipers bolt to jzx and mx81 struts (and others im sure), not a toyota swap but still interesting and helpful.
    There's a different thread for non toyota parts on toyotas.

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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    Oddities with Celicas (ST16X to ST20X)

    -All engines and driveline pacakges are interchangeable.
    -MR2 clutches (aftermarket) can be used in the GTFour
    -JZA80 (USDM) injectors are a straight fit i nto gen2 rail
    -Maxda RX7 series4/5 AFM are 'interchangeable' with the Gen2 3sgte (varied reports)
    -ST204 rear shocks fit the ST185
    -ST184 dash works in the ST185 (you lose the useless boostgauge, and gain a volt meter)
    -Gen1 intake manifold is a direct bolt on to the gen2 block, along with 95% of all the ancilaries. (giving you side feed intake)
    -Gen2 3S-GE cams are a straight fit into the 3sgte head, which gives the advantage of a 'step 0' cam upgrade.
    -1ffze shimless buckets are a straight fit into the gen2 3sgte
    -st185 springs fit the st165
    -gen7 celica seats are a straight bolt into the gen5 (with very minor mods)

    And more when i can think of them.

    BTW: who said the 4age cams fit the 3sgte head? more info please!!!
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    Late model Camry 2 bolt brake master cylinder (p/n 47201-06190) bolts directly to TA22/AE86/TE72/AE71 booster for those running bigger brakes & needing to get rid of the spongy pedal ST205 celica fits also, but lines are slightly different.

    and the strangest one i've come across:

    1998 IS200 Altezza has independent rear suspension and a type 2 Torsen LSD.... thats not so wierd....... but it fits DIRECTLY into a live axle F series centre with no mods!!! Even the slightly wider carrier bearings can be used

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    What bore is that Camry MC?

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    now you got me! I can't remember if it was 1" or 15/16"

    Either way, works beautifully compared to my old setup, and F/R brake bias is still correct.

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    Ok, cool, ill keep that one on the books. Ive gone to the 17/16th Nissan Patrol master, and ill give a bit of a review in another thread when ive driven with it in.

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    Heres one for the RA23/28 lovers... KE55 corolla steering column shroud fits perfectly on the celica column. They arent exactly the same, so you cant mix the top and bottom of celica and corolla items, but nobody would ever tell the difference if you had a complete rolla setup on your celica (nobody has noticed on mine in the last 2 1/2 years). Also, the indicator etc multiswitch from the rolla fits perfectly (again, ive had one for 2 1/2 years) and the RA40 one fits too if you want to run an intermittent wiper setup... with the rest of the wiring of course. Oh, yeah, TA22-RA40 wiper motors are all interchangeable, I havent checked whether or not the early motors will run intermittently when put with the rest of the setup, but they fit in the hole. I think they may be interchangeable with KE30-55 rolla ones too, but havent checked.

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    found a jdm 3sfe st204 (base model)? celica has a two bolt alloy 15/16 brake master and bolts up in ke70/te71/te72 etc and probably all rwd corollas fwiw.. has level sensor and a neat snout on the filler so no more fluid sloshing out on those sideways excursions! brake line outlets a bit different so some mods to those required.

    4wd ae10# and most 4wd celica carib rav4 etc have T series rear irs diff with 2.8:1 ratio. be interesing to see if those tall gears are small enough to fit a te7/ae86 corolla live axle?

    anyone *completed* the altezza torsen a01b into live axle F series? ive so far sat it in the housing and bearings etc fit nice but the lsd carrier seems to *just* contact the pinion gear so might need 1mm removed off the pinion gear in my case. (tho the pinion was original F series one)

    10" disk upgrade on ae86/ jdm te71 T diff. have seen a few jdm ma45 celica/supra mk1 with T series disk brake (non vented) diff with 10" brakes.. ma45 diff is wider but bolt pattern on end of T housing same.. calipers are same style as jdm te71 but different caliper bolt spacing... so will be possible to use ma45 caliper mount, caliper and disks on other T series disk brake diffs for 1" bigger disks.

    E7 chassis and ae85/ae86 have identical shaped engine crossmembers with or without rack mounts. so say you want a 3tgt in a ke70 with rack.. use ke70/ae8# rack crossmember and carefully cut mounts off a te7# xmember and weld on the rack one for bolt up and factory mounting positions. (ive done it)

    C and S bellhousings have same bolt pattern. bell front face needs to be milled to correct input shaft/ spigot allignment and space starter out in depending which starter used. (known someone do it)

    G and W boxs have same bolt pattern to the bellhouse.. so liteace/townace/hiace etc vans with G52/G55 (side shifter) etc have bellhousings for supra box. 5k liteace has supra box bellhousing ha ha

    1G reduction gear starter motors fit T engines. have tested it on 3tgte.. may have clearance issues on custom manifs etc

    kp61 starlet k50 are bolt into ke3/ke2 corolla's because shifter is midway on tail housing, ke70 k50 shifter is at end of tail housing and tunnel cutting required and different mount.
    kp61 tail housings can be swapped onto ke70/ae70/ae85 k50 box's
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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    anyone *completed* the altezza torsen a01b into live axle F series? ive so far sat it in the housing and bearings etc fit nice but the lsd carrier seems to *just* contact the pinion gear so might need 1mm removed off the pinion gear in my case. (tho the pinion was original F series one)
    um, Yes, see my post above, its what i'm driving with at the moment.... And the original live F series pinion clears my carrier just fine.

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    Oh yeah, jogged my memory somewhat.

    4A FWD reduction starters fit T50s fine.

    AE95 axles are the same as kouki AE86 T-series, but are 4x100, which makes them near useless.

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    they'd be irs axles tho wouldnt they? but with larger T series splines.. live axles can usually be redrilled
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    AFAIK the Ae95 shares the same ass end as the AE86.

    All the bushes are interchangeable according to SuperPro
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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    this is the tech section - keep on topic
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    Default Re: Toyota's Interchangable Oddities.... (TIO#)

    AE95 is a live axle T-series rear end, just with the larger axles (Kouki, late model, more splines, thicker etc)
    The problem is that the axles already have two big holes in them to facilitate access to the mounting bolts on the axle ends, tends to make it hard to redrill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleno28
    Also...

    TA22 AUTO tailshaft matches RA28/23 in length and spline (W5x boxes)
    (TA22 manual spline is too small)
    - watch out however for the rubber joiner on some of these "one piece" shafts

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    in doing this swap, will it give u a better final drive? (i think its final drive, i mean top speed )
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