R154 and W58 Input Shafts

[driftae71]

just wondering if the input shafts on these two boxes have the same input shaft... just wondering so i can decide on clutches to go behind my 1j... wat bellhousing will join a 1jz and w58 gearbox together???

Not really be prepared to spend 1500 on a R154 when im only gonna be running close to stock power... so w58 manual conversion in my jzx83 with a good clutch...

[Mundoolun]

Just use the JZ80 2JZ Bellhousing Clutch Slave extra. All bolts up as per factory behind a 1JZGTE. As the non turbos ran a 2JGE with a factory fitted W58.

[driftae71]

ok so easy enouch the do w58 bolt up but will 1jz flywheel and clutch kit fit the w58??? or does the N/A 2j flywheel and clutch work better/bolt onto 1j???

[The Real Roadrunner]

input splines are the same so if you get a decent clutch for the W58 it can still be used with an R154 if you get a pull-push converter.


cheers
linden

[The Real Roadrunner]

na 2j is the cheapest clutch that will work, pull type like the 1jzgte are more expensive.

[whatthe?]

If it's a 1J clutch from a R154 box it'll be a pull type clutch. W58 uses a push type.

I'm pretty sure the spline is the same diameter and number of teeth, but that wont be your issue if the clutch was with an R154 before

Edit - Linden you bum . How'd you type that much in less than 2 mins

I think he's looking at getting a W58 and has a R154 clutch already, so a pull/push converter won't help and AFAIK there isnt a converter to make a R154 clutch work with a W58

[driftae71]

ok great so will a 2j clutch kit bolt up to a 1jz flywheel or will 2jz flywheel bolt onto a 1jz???

so setup will be 2j bellhousing with (flywheel/clutch to be confirmed) and w58 with 2j NA slave cylinder and then just normal mx83 manual conversion bits...

[The Real Roadrunner]

same crank bolt pattern, just use all the components that relate to the bellhousing your using and it will all work seamlessly.

[driftae71]

cheers everyone very very helpful and concise... much appreciated...anyone selling a 2J NA manual bellhousing... lol

[takai]

They arnt overly expensive from Toyota. Around the $400 mark.

Linden, or anyone for that matter. Who has a photo looking down the input spline of an R154.
Im thinking of an easier way to convert a R154 to push type.

EDIT: 17th page of Google images.
Is this right?

[The Real Roadrunner]

check ed's thread for a front on pic of the tilton setup, its basically the same but has a different front face, or are you planning on photochopping?

[takai]

Yeah, thought it might have the same front face. Saab 9000 clutch slave (which is what Tilton copied anyway, and its shorter) and a mounting plate would solve the need for this ugly thing:

[chaserbuddy]

hey,

i was just wondering if you could use a w58 with r154 housing to make a pull type w58 or wont it go together, because the pull type set up is actually connected to the housing not the gearbox itself right?

cheers

[takai]

1. Why?
2. W58 and R154 bellhousings are different bolt patterns im pretty sure.
3. Why?
4. ...
5. Profit.

[chaserbuddy]

oh well i thought they'd have the same bolt patterns... was thinking of replacing my r154. ah well just get it rebuilt