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    I am going to change the turbo on my car soon and gave decided to replace all the exhaust manifold studs/nuts soon.

    What grade and material metal is best suited to a turbo high heat appliaction?

    What does OEM use?

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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    OEM Probably are mild steel.

    A good choice to use is ARP Bolts. Their exhaust bolts are made of stainless steel.

    http://www.arp-bolts.com

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    mild steel?
    bolts are never "just" mild steel. (except those shitty ones you get at bunnings with no ratings)
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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    Thats the closest description without knowing the exact composition I guess.

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    If you don't decide to go genuine or performance studs then just swing in to your local bolt shop ie Lee Brothers aka 'the nut house' in north parramatta. Much cheaper than genuine for what is essentially the same thing. The only difference is often the size of the head with genuine often having 14mm whereas the same bolt would have 17mm, not relevant to studs but just a heads up.
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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    Quote Originally Posted by Z2TT
    Thats the closest description without knowing the exact composition I guess.
    in this case, it is very dangerous to "just guess" at what type it is, without actually knowing anything about it. it is better to not make any suggestion, if you are not 100% sure of the answer.

    eg, the difference in strength between "mild steel" and a high tensile bolt could be 4 or 5 times!...
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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    Many years ago I had a hell of a time finding anything to replace my exhaust studs with. Now I know a trip to Pick-a-part will probably get you anything you need, but back then I ended up buying a metre of all-thread from a bolt place. I then cut it to length as needed and used it as studs. A bit annoying since it had no smooth bit in the middle to grip, but it worked, and a metre lasted for years.

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    PS, Bolts and studs != mild steel

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    High tensile is the best to use for manifold bolts especially exhaust as high tensile will take more heat and wont be prone to stripping threads and breaking.
    Cheers Brett.

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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    thinking of brass for mine
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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    I've always used standard high tensil bolts without issues. The important thing I have found with turbo's, is to use the right nuts on them.

    If the engine is rigidly mounted, or not the smoothest running engine, normal nuts will shake of REALLY quickly.

    Spring washers loose their spring with the turbo heat.

    Nylock nuts loose their nylon bits.

    The best option i've found is to source "castle" nuts from a fastener shop, as apparently that's what's on most OEM turbos.

    If anyone else has any suggestions, i'm all ears.
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    All we use is standard high tensile bolts/studs and have rarely had a problem with them. Breaking OEM studs is pretty common on older cars, however.
    The above opinion is just that - my opinion. It is not shared by any business that I am currently or have previously been involved with, nor any of their employee's.

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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    toyota manifold nuts/thread pitch is the sam across the entire range, swing past any exhaust shop and they will have studs and nuts on the shelf....we are always using them as with any manifold change....as one will usually break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbosaurus
    The best option i've found is to source "castle" nuts from a fastener shop, as apparently that's what's on most OEM turbos.
    On my exhaust manifold it had cone locks and normal studs holding it on.

    When I was undoing it they were that tight on the studs that out of the 4 nuts I had to undo it sheared every one of the studs off, or totally stripped the stud clean of any thread. Not sure if these are the same as what your talking about. On everything else youve said im in 100% agreeance.
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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    Steer clear of stainless, or any high grade stuff - they always end in tears furher down the track. I use plently of mild steel exhaust studs every day - for installing manifolds, turbos, extractors, whatever - and they always give the least trouble to remove again later. Make sure the threads are in top shape before you stick a stud in there, and put a little coppercoat on them.

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    Default Re: exhaust manifold stud material

    Quote Originally Posted by mrshin
    Steer clear of stainless, or any high grade stuff - they always end in tears furher down the track. I use plently of mild steel exhaust studs every day - for installing manifolds, turbos, extractors, whatever - and they always give the least trouble to remove again later. Make sure the threads are in top shape before you stick a stud in there, and put a little coppercoat on them.
    Would that mean ARP exhaust bolts would be no good?

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