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    Default Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    Hi Guys,

    I am dropping number 1 cylinder on 4afc in a 1990 corolla. Have so far replaced:

    Cap
    Rotor
    Plugs
    Leads

    Will always be dropping at idle, car is low on power, getting around 250km per tank of fuel driving around.

    What else should I look at? Any ways to easily narrow down the problem?

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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    Do a compression test on the engine might have a burnt valve, blown head gasket or something along those lines........
    3TGTE might be old but it can still hammer along.

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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    What's the compression?
    Pulling the injector or plug wire to find out which one?
    Swapped injectors?
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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    Quote Originally Posted by allencr View Post
    What's the compression?
    Pulling the injector or plug wire to find out which one?
    Swapped injectors?
    are we talking 4afc here or 4afe? as the title states 4afc, but this post makes me think otherwise?
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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    Its carby. Pulling lead to test.

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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    Maybe a cracked piston or a burnt valve
    Had any bad pinging lately?

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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    +1 for compression test. . . . . please let us know what you find? (if you get poop readings here, try the oil down the spark plug hole trick and repeat test) this would indicate worn rings/piston damage. If readings dont increase after oil, check out the valve train and perform a leak down test.
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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    Would it be worth changing out the coil?

    If its piston / valve / any other big job I don't think it will be worth fixing. How much does a compression test set you back?

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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    whereabouts are you in QLD, I have a comp tester!

    One would think the coil would make all cylinders miss and carry on, not just one of them.
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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    Quote Originally Posted by RT40Corona4AGTE View Post
    whereabouts are you in QLD, I have a comp tester!

    One would think the coil would make all cylinders miss and carry on, not just one of them.
    I am in Brisbane, Taringa.

    Yeah I was thinking that, changing all the ignition components (except coil and ignitor) actually seemed to make it slightly worse.

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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    You've tried pulling the ignition leads of one by one to see if it makes a difference?

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    Default Re: Dropping #1 Cylinder on 4afc

    Think about the basics: fuel, air, compression, spark.

    Fuel: Its a carby, so any problem is gonna affect all cylinders, not just one. Rules this out.

    Air: It's possible there could be an issue with the intake valve. Easy to check if it's opening/closing properly, turn it over by hand with the cover off. Anything else would affect all cylinders.

    Compression: the most likely suspect. Compression gauges are like 30 bucks from SCA, and are very useful. A problem in the head is easier, a problem in the block would probably be terminal in your case.

    Spark: Already checked out the plug and lead. Make sure the dizzy contacts are all good. Coil and other stuff will affect all cylinders.

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